my game clearly is bugged...ought I to restart? (spoilers)

[jkk]

The former computer jock in this old gamer knew it was a bad idea to apply a patch in midgame, but we all know what a looooong game it is as well. I had started over once playing the good/evil thing the other way, and didn't really foresee endless replay value of the first half of the game. So, though it was late in Act II, I went ahead and applied 1.04.

I got suspicious when Guyven didn't appear at the Keep. (I've seen a thread on how to make him do it, but I figure no urgent hurry.)

I got more suspicious when Ivarr the Boneless or whatever his name is wouldn't give me the holy quest to go after the dragon. But maybe that was due to me being a Shadow Thief. Hell, if I were Ivarr I wouldn't give me any quests either.

I got really suspicious when the Bag of Holding ate my Belt of Ironfist. With some help from the forum I gave it back to myself, but this is getting annoying.

Now I'm back from there and just remembered to check in for the Drow merchant I liberated. And she isn't there either.

There are probably ways to make all of the above appear using cheat codes. But before I do, I can think of several possible inferences to draw from this sequence of events:

1) NWN2 remains very buggy, that's about par for the course. I figure if that's true you guys can tell me.

2) I'm a zoomtard for applying a patch and continuing to play with a pre-patch save, something game companies always tell you will cause trouble. I should expect more of the same until I start a new game.

3) These are all known common bugs but it's just bad luck I'm getting them all. You guys would know that too.

Sorry for the long post, but I really wanted to finish the game this time before restarting. Views?

[kgambit]

The "Path of the Holy Quest" with Ivarr is not a bug - it's restricted to a definite set of characters who meet alignment and class restrictions.

But the other issues are all valid complaints and / or known bugs. I'm not sure WHY people are still having trouble with Guyven spawning at this point. It was a problem from day 1 with the original release version and it still is a problem even with the v1.03(840) patch and possibly with the v1.04 patch as well. I suspect the issue is somehow tied into the saved games and the globals.xml files and how they are or are not updated when patches are applied.

I don't know whether I would restart or not. On one hand, its a major pain in the butt to do so - that's a lot of stuff to replay. One the other, from all reports there is some deleted content that is being added back in and replaying it might show you things you hadn't seen before. Sounds like a toss-up to me. Although it is a bit disconcerting that you are getting multiple spawning bugs - THAT would worry me a bit.

For what it's worth I got hit with a game ending bug on my first run through - and I was DEEP into chapter 3. Major league frustration and I had NO choice but to re-start. Color me one unhappy camper! On my current run through I got hit with the Guyven bug as well, and just decided to blow it off. I didn't need the extra xp - and I can always call it in via the console if I decide to. So I am just going to go ahead and play on. Oh and I STILL have patched to version 1.04. I'm going to finish this jaunt with 1.03 and export my character. Then I'll patch finish the very end game and export again.

[jkk]

Yeah, guess I should probably just start fresh. It's like with Windows sessions. I always tried to tell the users: once you've had your first weirdness in a Windows session, no further weirdnesses are really diagnostic because at that point the session has begun to unravel. The key is if you get it even from a fresh start.

Oh, well, I was really looking forward to a better crafter character anyway, one whose game player learns how to craft before he stupidly sells back a bunch of gems to the thief warehouse supervisor early in the game. Ow!

[kgambit]

Originally Posted by jkk

Oh, well, I was really looking forward to a better crafter character anyway, one whose game player learns how to craft before he stupidly sells back a bunch of gems to the thief warehouse supervisor early in the game. Ow!

OUCH! At least it was early on - the good stuff doesn't show up right away. At least it didn't for me.